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January 27th, 2009

A Bibi-Barack Collision?

By Patrick J. Buchanan

“Where there is no solution, there is no problem,” geostrategist James Burnham once wryly observed.

Ex-Sen. George Mitchell, the latest U.S. negotiator to take up the Palestine portfolio, may discover what it was that Burnham meant.

For Israel’s three-week war on Gaza, where Palestinians died at a rate of 100 to one to Israelis, appears to have been, like Israel’s wars in Lebanon, another Pyrrhic victory for the Jewish state.

In 1982, after an attempted assassination of their ambassador in London, Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon drove through Lebanon to Beirut, shelling the city for weeks until Arafat agreed to pull out the PLO and depart for Tunisia.

The Israelis’ triumph quickly turned to ashes in their mouths.

Weeks of bombarding Beirut turned world opinion against Israel. Defense Minister Sharon was savaged for enabling a massacre in the Sabra and Chatilla refugee camps. Most critically, as future Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin ruefully observed, in invading a quiescent south Lebanon, Israel “let the Shia genie out of the bottle.”

South Lebanon became Indian country. Hezbollah, born of Israel’s invasion, would, 18 years later, force a bleeding Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and its Lebanese allies out of the country, turning Israel’s once-friendly northern border into a new battlefront in the Arab-Israeli war.

Moreover, the Americans, persuaded to send Marines to train the Lebanese Army, were punished with terrorist bombings of the U.S. embassy and Marine barracks at Beirut airport, with 241 U.S. dead.

President Reagan would withdraw, and the Americans never came back.

In 2006, Ehud Olmert used the border ambush of an Israel patrol and the kidnapping of two soldiers to launch a second Lebanon war.

Hezbollah lost hundreds of fighters, but its stature soared as it became the first Arab force to fight Israel and emerge unbroken and unbeaten. And the thousands of Hezbollah rockets that rained down on the Galilee destroyed forever the myth of Israeli invulnerability.

Now, in the aftermath of the war on Gaza, which almost all in Israel supported, come the second thoughts. Of 1,400 dead from air strikes and invasion, one-third were Palestinian children. Al Jazeera video of the dead and dying civilians, juxtaposed with video of Barack Obama enjoying a round of golf in scenic Hawaii, were devastating for the U.S. image, as U.S. weapons had been used by Israel to deliver the death and destruction.

Like Hezbollah, Hamas has emerged more entrenched, while the moderates like Mahmoud Abbas are portrayed as Quislings. Now, a rift has appeared between Obama, who has called for a lifting of the Israeli blockade of Gaza to allow aid and commerce to flow freely, and an Israel determined to maintain its chokehold on Hamas.

In none of these three wars was the Israel Air Force challenged or the IDF defeated. In casualties, Hezbollah and Hamas, Lebanese and Gazans, all suffered many times more dead and wounded.

Yet, looking back, were any of these wars necessary? Did any make Israel more secure than when the Lebanese border was quiet? Does the future look brighter today than in 1982, after the peace with Egypt and withdrawal from Sinai, before the war on Beirut?

Three months before launching the Gaza war, Olmert told two journalists that Israel, to achieve lasting peace, would have to return the Golan Heights to Syria and almost all of the West Bank to the Palestinians, and give East Jerusalem back to the Arabs who live there.

“In the end, we will have to withdraw from the lion’s share of the territories, and for the territories we leave in our hands, we will have to give compensation in the form of territories within the state of Israel at a ratio that is more or less 1:1.”

“Whoever wants to hold on to all of (Jerusalem) will have to bring 270,000 Arabs inside the fences of sovereign Israel. It won’t work.”

No, it won’t.

Like Rabin in 1994 and Ehud Barak in 2000, two of the most decorated soldiers in Israel’s history, Olmert had concluded, late in life, that it is either land for peace, with all its risks, or endless war for Israel.

Yet, after that interview, he launched the December blitz and invaded Gaza, killing and wounding 5,000 Palestinians, making of the Strip a zone of permanent hatred and making Hamas, whom he sought to dethrone and undeniably wounded, even stronger.

Enraged that Hamas was not destroyed or disarmed, Israelis are leaning toward the Likud Party of “Bibi” Netanyahu, who opposed the withdrawal from Gaza, opposes a withdrawal from the West Bank, will never share Jerusalem and calls Gaza “Hamastan.”

Should he win, a Bibi-Barack collision appears inevitable. Backing Bibi will be the Israeli lobby, the Evangelicals, the neocons and a Congress that could find only five members to oppose a resolution endorsing all the Israelis had done and were doing to the people of Gaza.

Where there is no solution there is no problem.

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46 comments to A Bibi-Barack Collision?

  • civilwarhero

    Here’s a novel approach: How about israel give the arabs back all the land it, the League of Nations and Harry Truman stole from them in 1947 and America just adopt the Jewish nomads it’s been supporting by proxy until their Messiah comes back and we all live in Christian Harmony?
    I’ll take a family at my house…anyone else?

  • telrod

    You’ll never hear it in propaganda choked America, but the state of Israel represents an enormous risk for the Jewish people. They have placed over half their race within range of a single plane carrying hydrogen bombs.

  • ash

    Bravo. You Pat Buchanan is one of the very few people who have the moral courage to say what is true.
    Keep it up. I hope and pray that the new administration in Washington also read your article and use common sense to do what is right do justice to the people of Palestine who are day in day out facing the inhuman brutality of Israel. Thanks again.

  • therock

    Endless.
    With American politicians in the ‘pocket’ of the AIPAC/NEOCON/Zionist cabal, we, The United States of America, will suffer the burden of being this entiy’s sole ally.
    Pathetic and…satanic.
    We deserve what we get!!

  • Todd

    I agree with everything civilwarhero posted, except for the part about taking Jewish refugees from Israel. Why on earth would we want a bunch of Zionist nutjobs here? We have enough trouble as it is, and need to get over thinking that the United States is a refuge state, rather than a home to its citizens.

    Maybe civilwar hero was joking about allowing Israeli refugees to come to America, but I have heard the idea before, and it makes my skin crawl.

  • Vinyard

    Just look what the “special relationship” has cost us FINANCIALLY. That isn’t counting the MORAL cost of supporting the WRONG SIDE all these years.

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/motherofallscandals.html

  • Vinyard

    The link for the information for the economic costs of being the ally of Israel is here:

    http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/0306020.html

  • benitogarciaweblog

    Sorry, but I am not accord.

    I think Israel has won this war and it’s been a war for surviving Israel. Arabs must recognize borders from ONU resolution 181 if they want a Palestinian State. That’s so simple.
    Palestinian politicians know Hamas is an inconvenient for finding the peace and than is a terrorist organization but his people support Hamas and very much foreingners.
    But Hamas will disappear if Palestinian people want to find the peace. We must support cohabitation between Arabs and Jews.

  • Mr. Wilson

    What the Israeli government needs to hear for a US President is this: since the US “sells” Israel the lion’s-share of the weapons which they use to kill Palestinians, and since the US “loans” Israel the money to pay for those weapons, and then forgives those “loans”, henceforth the Israeli government shall be accountable to the US on how it uses those weapons and if the Israelis use those weapons contrary to US wishes, they will have to look elsewhere for a “sugar daddy”. Is Barack Obama the US President with the nerve to lay down this law? I certainly hope so!

  • Tinko

    Mr Wilson,
    Israelis do not feel accountable to anyone, but themselves.
    Their firm belief is that they are the Chosen People.
    And it is true they are the chosen people for a number of reasons.
    There is a catch though. When other people consider sombody a Chosen Person it is OK.
    But when someone considers himself a Chosen Person, then the forst thing to happen is that there comes a nice gentlement and smilingly he says: “Nice to meet you Sir and be at your service. My name is Satan!”

  • Vinyard

    See my post here for what is happening to Pat’s column elsewhere

    http://buchanan.org/blog/2009/01/has-israel-become-a-neo-nazi-germany/#comment-15235

  • Off the subject but check this one out:

    http://pecozbill.blogspot.com/2009/01/acorn-remember-them-getting-4-billion.html

    “House GOP leader John Boehner’s office reports that the left-wing voter fraud/illegal alien/housing entitlement racketeers at ACORN “could get billions” more in federal taxpayer funding from the Democrats’ stimulus bill.

    Incredibly, the Democrats’ bill makes groups like ACORN eligible for a $4.19 billion pot of money for “neighborhood stabilization activities.””

  • Per

    I am from Sweden and I must say I am very impressed with Patrick J. Buchanan thinking.

    His knowledge and understanding about wars and history and the world today is outstanding. I like Pat Buchanan’s excellent writings very much.

    American thinking at it’s best.

  • friscokid

    The Israelis just want to be left alone and not have to deal with rockets and suicide bombers coming across their borders. Jews have been stomped on enough this past century, that I don’t think they’re going to let anyone push them around in Israel. They know that Barack Obama sympathizes with the Arabs in the region, and they’re very nervous. Barack Obama also knows that Israel is armed to the teeth with weapons that everyone hopes that they never use. In fact, for anyone to ever again use a nuclear weapon would undoubtedly cause somebody else to use one. There’s just too much of that stuff out there. The Cold War, which young people don’t remember at all, desensitized the world to worrying over the possibility of nuclear war. Nuclear war could easily happen. If the Israelis are backed into a corner, if Pakistani militants attack India at the level of that last attack, if Kim Jong-il gets a hair up his ass; anything could get the ball rolling. To all of the stupid Muslims who are determined to eliminate Israel, and to all of the stupid non-Muslim twits in Europe and America, heed my advice: GET OFF OF ISRAEL’S BACK.

  • Per

    Why not hand over the Israel-Palestine problem to the International Court of Law and let them decide on boarders and refuge compensations and USA position is that it will accept the lawfull decision of the court and expect evrybody else to do that too?

    Then both the problem and the solution is out of US responsibility and US will not have to take anybodies side. This is wht we have laws and courts, let the court settle the konflikt and the UN reinfore it if nessessary.

    It is human unacceptable to have 3.6 million people living under such a brutal ockupation since 1967. This situation has produced the most number of terrorist in the world, maybe now close to Iraq and soon Afghanistan. Why do we not stop hurting them and ourselves?

  • YankeeTom63

    I think we should keep out of it. It is not our fight. More trouble has been caused by Our Government sticking it’s noise in places it has no business then anything else I can think of. First thing the U.S. of A should do is change the way we elect our leaders. Government is not a business nor should it be treated as such. Get money out of Government.

  • schnapps

    I have to disagree with the above post by “friscokid” who feels that Israel simply wants to be left alone and not attacked with rockets from the Palestinians. This is a wonderful thought -BUT- the simple facts of the matter show otherwise. If Israel simply wants to be peaceful and left alone then WHY WHY WHY do they:
    1. Refuse to only occupy the borders to the lands that they were supposed to after the 1967 war?
    2. Refuse to compensate the Palestinians for the lands, homes and businesses that they stole from them in the late 1940,s?
    3. Continue to keep moving more Israeli settlers into the West Bank after they have no right to this land and are condemned by the entire world for doing so?
    4. Keep stealing more and more West Bank land from the Palestinians, and then building massive twenty foot high walls along miles and miles of the land dividing it up so the Israelis have walled roads and cities inside the West Bank?
    5. Trap the 1.5 million people in Gaza and allow no one to give them food, medical supplies, electricity, water or fuel for almost two years now ?
    6. Use illegal weaponry against women and children when they invade and murder Arabic people in Lebanon, Syria and Gaza? This includes white phosphorous, cluster bombs and DIMES ( Dense Inert Metal Explosives).
    7. Totally ignore over 70 UN resolutions condemning their procedures and actions? Saddam Hussein disobeyed basically one UN resolution and America brought the hammer down on him.

    I could add more violations by Israel but why bother. Israel is a warmongering nation that is of NO benefit to the United States. Israel is destroying America. Our blind support for Israel makes America hated all over the world. Why do Muslims hate us? Bin Laden has been very clear about this. Foolish Americans don’t want to accept the simple facts.

    Barak Obama is surrounded by Jewish advisers. He owes his presidency to Jewish support, advise and money. He knows which side his bread is buttered on!! We are not going to see things get better for the Palestinians unless they bend down and submit to being Israeli slaves.

  • therock

    The Zionist entity is the problem!!
    To you manipulated brainwashed boobs that defend Izrael just look at the FACTS. The Arab world has put up a proposal to the Zionist entity that recognizes IT, but the ‘Entity’ has dragged its feet and made excuses not to come to terms with this. Those are the FACTS!!
    But ‘frisco’ you are right, the Zionists probably have a doomsday bomb, a la ‘Dr. Strangelove’, and will not hesitate to use it.
    Armageddon anyone??

  • therock

    Look at ‘Abdullah II: The 5-State Solution’
    By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN, in todays NY Times, thats pretty much what should happen, but the land of Zion will balk.

  • friscokid

    I’ve got to get to work. Sorry, I’ll get back to this lovefest.

  • Rodfish

    BOEING GOES BONG 10,000 JOBS JET OFF.

    While you guys are venting your spleens over a couple of middle east tribes, not of your ilk or business, the FINANCIAL CRISIS gets worse and worse by the minuet.

    The predictions are now being updated, its much worse than originally thought.

    We are looking at 20 YEARS for recovery.

    Some jobs and people will never recover, they are doomed to fall into the abyss.

    As for Jews, Zionists, Israel, and Israelis, Arabs, Islamics, Palestine, Palestinians, these two tribes hated each other since the split several thousand years ago, (ISHMAEL), its what they do.

    So if you have a job today, enjoy, as it may well be gone by tomorrow.

    Your eye is on the wrong ball.

  • If we never take the steps necessary, and we have not taken any of them so far, to put the country on track toward long term recovery rodfish: then we will never have long term recovery. Not just 7, 10, or 20 years but never. It is unfortunate that so few people understand this precept because it means we are in for a long slow wakening up period respite with pain, blind alleys, and monumental struggles in the wrong direction.

  • dococ

    In 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon and kicked out the (non Iranian backed) PLO. The Iranian backed Hezbollah rose to strength. In 2006 (Leb border) and 2009 (Gaza) Israel fought wars they didn’t win. Who benefited? Iranian backed Hezbollah and Iranian backed Hamas.
    Notice who benefits from Israeli actions: Iran. I don’t believe this is coincidence.

  • civilwarhero

    Thanks for reminding me about that, Rodfish. As usual, your deft objectivity on most topics, with the glaring exception of israel, has helped add to my argument: if the USA had the benefit of the $50-100B a year it unaccountably dumped in the “Promised Land-on-Credit” venture in the Middle East, we could kill 2 birds with one stone!Todd, I wasn’t kidding…I’ll even start with Rodfish. It’d be a LOT better than having to house and deal with the completely psychotic natives like Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Kristol, Krauthammer, Frum or Marilyn Manson (I mean Brian Warner)…at least Rod’s civilized.

  • Thomas

    Pat, the Middle East is irrelevant right now. HR645 has now authorized FEMA camps in the U.S. The elites have engineered the collapse of the US economy, built and beta-tested the camps, done away with the 4th ammendment, false flagged 911 to terrorize us and justify the NWO-CFR agenda. The curtain is now being lifted; its all mainstream now. Because they “care” about us. Its time for you to get on track here.

  • Rodfish

    GLOBAL PROBLEMS NEED GLOBAL SOLUTIONS.

    The village is shrinking and needs one headman to keep the goats under control.

    The planet is up for grabs.

  • Rodfish

    Andrea Freiboden said:
    Drink your ovaltine.

    Soon only tap water will be available.

    Starbucks to Cut 6,700 Jobs After Earnings Fall 69%

    Starbucks Corp., the world’s largest chain of coffee shops, said it will cut 6,700 jobs and close 300 more stores after reporting first-quarter profit that fell more than analysts estimated.

    The company plans to close 200 locations in the U.S. and 100 overseas, in addition to the 600 Starbucks said it would close last year. The workforce reduction will eliminate 6,000 café positions and 700 corporate jobs, the Seattle-based chain said today in a statement.

    Time to start stockpiling food.

  • roho

    Expect NOTHING different from Israel?

    They still believe that “Smoke & Mirrors” combined with high dollar PR work from the Media Moguls can fix anything.

    “Israel Recruits ARMY OF BLOGGERS to combat Anti-Zionist websites.”

    http:www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1056648.html

  • Obama will just be a Bi-Bi Gun.

  • Linda Muller is a Mossad agent!

  • PaulW

    Thank you Mr.Buchanan. A rare voice of reason on this matter.

    The first positive step would be for the US to stop selling weapons to Israel. I know that’s a bit awkward as the most “peace loving” nations in the world are also the biggest arms dealers!

    Sorry, no, that’s an impossible suggestion. Get rid of the US arms industry and America loses its last manufacturing jobs.

  • Cking

    Hello Patrick,
    You are right Patrick, there is no problem. All the protestations and accusations aside, Israel’s creation in its’ design and purpose was never to foster peace and security for the Israelis or the Arabs of the Middle East. We can put aside the current batch of provocateurs for the moment, because these actors come and go as utility demands. The bigger picture is understanding The Geopolitical Elite’s World policy of Perpetual War in the Middle East. This policy effectively undermines any competing policy that could foster peace and prosperity via political, educational, economic, and development initiatives. Not only are the Israelis and Arabs made to suffer each other, economic opportunities and enhancements between Europe and Asia are ruined by this artificial/orchestrated impediment. Like the World Wars of the past destruction of both populations and anyone else who wants to join is the only goal.
    So that is the dilemma. The U.S. should not be in the middle of this and we can not say we are a great example among nations now. However we are a super power, and can help if we don’t take sides and state firmly to both parties that war is unacceptable now, it is against U.S. interests in this area. We than can offer to broker a settlement. In the mean time we can only hope that the average Israeli and his Palestinian counterpart will wake up to there mutually endured abuse, demand the ouster of their respective leaderships and bring their common sense to the peace process.

  • bluesilver

    http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSLA371329

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1216/p09s01-coop.html

    There are 2 links I sent to my friend on Christmas day.

    I think I titled the email “Mr. Obama may come across one serious and unexpected challenge early in his term: Bibi Netanyahu”

    Sure enough. I based my inference because back then it said that Netanyahu was ahead in the polls.

    Let’s hope Livni wins.

  • therock

    Cking, the Zionist prosper with the eternal turmoil, in their backyard, fostered by the ‘Geopolitical Elite’ as you cal them.
    They live very well in Izrael proper, but not in Gaza.
    ..and Cking, the ZOG of the United States has not allowed an even handed approach to the problem and I doubt that it will change with the new administration, but one can hope. Otherwise… who knows what?
    The plan set forth by Friedman in the NY Times is basically the way to go for a lasting peace, but the Zionist will hemm and haw and delay and probably never sign up to a deal with the Arabs.

    ..and again, it’s all related. War, globalism, economic shifts, corrupting and degrading of Western Civilization, open borders (except in the land of Zion)…it all ties in…

    …beware the Protocols of Zion.

    Viva Bishop Williamson!

  • Thomas

    Hey Andrea, you talking to me? I’ll drink my Ovaltine if you’ll drink your cKool-aid, okay?

    Like I said, it’s all in the mainstream news now. They’re unveiling it now. Admitting it. Any time there’s an ice storm, new camps go up; but they don’t come down. Civil unrest, don’t you know. Northcom has been telling you this for years now. Wake up, Andrea: the news will make you Frei!

  • Fairhaven

    Pere’s Political Ponzi Scam:
    Peddling innocence while murdering children.

    After decades of duplicity the World is finally on to the Peres Scam. But, America’s State Dept remains as bought as its SEC.

    REF: Turkish President “Erdogan apparently became incensed after he was prevented …from responding to remarks by Peres on the recent Israeli attack… Red faced, and with one hand grasping the arm of the moderator, David Ignatius of the Washington Post, Erdogan turned to the Israeli president…

    Resisting efforts by Ignatius to end the session, Erdogan continued, saying to Peres, “When it comes to killing, you know well how to kill…”

    …Erdogan said that he was particularly upset with Ignatius, who he said had failed to direct a balanced and impartial panel.”

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/30/europe/30clash.php

  • Todd

    http://eaazi.blogspot.com/

    This is an interesting take on our ME ally.

  • therock

    Todd, read Justin Raimondo in antiwar.com, he elightens on how Huffington’s Post has been overtaken by Zionist $money$. With Rham Emanuel
    in charge of Obama I have written to Huff Post that both they and the White House are Zionist Occupied Territory and of course my post has been edited out. Zionist bloggers I presume…
    Beware the power of the cabal…

  • Fairhaven

    LOOK MA, NO REGS:
    Which is larger the US GDP of $15 TRILLION or the Derivative Market of $600 TRILLION???

    Makes US$1 Trillion trade deficit seem kinda small.
    Globalization means no regs & no sovereignty.

    REF:” That’s $600,000,000,000,000—…the total size of the derivatives market, …it’s not surprising that few stop to ponder how a market for obscure financial products, or any product, could have quadrupled in size since 2002, and now measures more than 12 times the size of the world economy.

    How could any “market” rack up sales that dwarf the income of all nations combined? First of all, that $600 trillion figure is out of date, from the end of last year. Official figures haven’t been released, but surveys reveal the market has now grown to at least $668 trillion…”

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/164591

  • “The derivatives genie is now well out of the bottle, and these instruments will almost certainly multiply in variety and number until some event makes their toxicity clear….[They] are financial weapons of mass destruction, carrying dangers that, while now latent, are potentially lethal.” — Warren Buffett, Chairman and Chief Executive, from his Letter to Shareholders, 2002 Berkshire Hathaway annual report.

    Thanks for sharing Fairhaven. A topic every American needs to be aware of is the derivative market.

    The reason why AIG was taken over and bailed out so quickly had to do with AIG’s huge, global credit-default swap positions in the credit derivatives market.

    The particular risks that brought the company (AIG) to the brink of bankruptcy seem to lie not with its core insurance businesses but with its derivatives-trading subsidiary AIG Financial Products. AIG FP, as it’s called, merits a mere paragraph in the nine-page description of the company’s businesses in its most recent annual report. But it’s a huge player in the new and mysterious business of credit-default swaps: derivative securities that allow banks, hedge funds and other financial players to insure against loans gone bad.” – Time, September 17, 2008

    It’s very serious business indeed if the derivatives market teeters off the ledge.

  • Spending money we don’t have created this problem. Trying to solve the problem by spending more money we don’t have will only make matters worse. The way out of this is to begin manufacturing more goods we can sell to other countries. If that means saving, and hopefully restructuring, our big manufacturers I’m reluctantly for it. It should also include making it easier and less expensive to manufacture here. By that I do not mean lowering wages so that our workers are competing against 3rd world countries/workers. I mean taking the burden off these manufacturers — less nonsensical regulations and more protectionism. We allowed the Japanese to dump their products here, destroying much of our manufacturing base (cars, televisions, etc.). We’re allowing China to drown us in cheap products. While we’d like to think of trade as a non-zero sum partnership, it is more like war waged through economics. We haven’t felt it too severely until recently because we’ve been living off our hump. Well, the hump has run dry. Trying to squeeze more from the hump in an effort to give us some legs is a pipe dream. You don’t win a war through partnership with your adversary — especially when your adversary is trying to crush you and cripple your manufacturing base. If we make it more attractive to manufacture here, we can again lead the world in production of cars, trucks, televisions, etc. And let’s start buying American again!

  • sarfaraz

    Sir-I am amazed and astonished-truly astonished – that whilst men of your calibre and intelligence still exist (thank God) yet Americans keep electing fools and liars to be their Presidents- even though what you say is infintely more intelligent and just!

    From the signs of the End Times in Islam we have that the leaders will become the worst of the people:

    1.”When the affair (of leadership) will be entrusted to those who do not deserve it, then wait for the Hour.” (Bukhari)

    2. “Indeed before the Hour, there will be many years of deceit and lies-the truthful will not be believed, and the liars will be believed. The ones who are trustworthy will be accused of betrayal and the ones who are treacherous will be trusted-and the Ruwaibidah will speak-(he is one)who is insignificant and silly but will be the spokesman on the affairs of the general public.” (Ahmad/Ibn Majah)

    3.Wicked and Evil Rulers are honoured because they are feared:
    “when the tribe is led by the most wicked one among them; when the leader of a people is the most base individual among them; when a man is honoured because his evil is
    feared;”

    4.Better off Dead when Rulers are the Most wicked

    But if your rulers are the most evil among you, if the rich among you are also the most miserly of you, and if your affairs are trusted to your women, then beneath the earth (i.e.in your graves) is better for you than being on the face of it.” (Maalik)

    ‘Hasten to death before the following: the coming of foolish rulers; an increase in the
    number of special police (for the ruler); the selling of judgments; blood being deemed
    insignificant (i.e. much killing, without people considering there tobe value to life); the breaking off of family ties; and the presence of a group that takes the Qur’an as a flute (i.e. saying it in a melodious but affected and extravagant manner), gives it to the people, and diverts them with it (from the true purpose of the Qur’an), though
    they have the least understanding among them.’

    5 ‘The Hour will not rise until the happiest man will be the depraved son of a depraved father (lukka` ibn lukka`) and if the leadership is entrusted to those unfit for it, expect the Hour.

    Thats is the depraved leader is Bush Jr son of Bush Sr or Abdullah son of Faud or Assad Jr son of Assad Sr or Abdullah son Hussein or (probably coming up next) Gamal mubarak son of Hosni Mubarak.

    or in the Arab world-bedouins becoming Heads of State;

    when the destitute camelherds compete in building tall structures.” (Bukhari)
    “when the barefoot and the naked are the heads of the people.” (Bukhari)
    “You shall see the barefoot, naked, indigent shepherds compete in building tall structures.” (Muslim)
    “when the naked and barefoot are the top leaders of the people.”(Muslim)
    “when you see that the barefoot and naked, the deaf and dumb are the kings of the earth.” (Muslim)
    “Who are the barefoot and naked?” He answered: “The Bedouin Arabs.” Sulayman al-Taymi’s narration.

    So without doubt if America has failed to recognise your worth then it is the will of God to allow the world become drenched in blood abnd corruption and greed until He cleanses it of filth like He cleansed the earth in Noahs time.

  • allovertheplace

    Why are we having this conversation? This subject matter takes us away from what we should be focusing on – our country. There is trouble enough here, created by the very same people who are causing trouble there and, indeed, all over the place. What we want most is to have America back – good old America. (Doesn’t that seem a quaint notion?) The focus on “there” serves two purposes, it forces us to want to get “there” done/over with the fastest/easiest/most convenient way possible because we really just want them to shut up and leave us alone (though we know from history they won’t) and it keeps our eyes off dissolution here, both of which serve “their” current and future goals very well. I’ll tell you, “there” isn’t going to go away and “here” isn’t going to come back until they succeed in their plans or we succeed in our hopes. The program of divide and conquer is everywhere relentlessly applied by these “people.” Sorry to be cryptic, all, but, as everyone well knows, “there” has all the power over here.

  • suzywong

    When will the general American public wake up to the fact that the country is completely controlled by Israel.
    We do not have freedom of speech about this. Try writing a letter to the editor criticizing the Jews and see if it gets published. Not a chance. Even Jimmy Carter had a problem getting parts of his book “Peace not Apartheid” into print.
    There isn’t a politician in Washington with the ethics to stand against the lobby. Remember the Congressman from Virginia, Moran, who did and was taken to the woodshed immediately.
    The online blogs are the only honest outlet now, CNN, Fox and the others tell you what they want you to think.
    Tell-em Pat!